{"id":4535,"date":"2017-10-31T00:58:00","date_gmt":"2017-10-31T00:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/?p=4535"},"modified":"2021-11-03T00:59:21","modified_gmt":"2021-11-03T00:59:21","slug":"six-key-follow-questions-asked-congress-340b-hearing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/2017\/10\/31\/six-key-follow-questions-asked-congress-340b-hearing\/","title":{"rendered":"Six Key Follow-Up Questions Asked by Congress in 340B Hearing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Earlier this month the House Energy and Commerce Committee\u2019s subcommittee on Government Oversight and Investigations held its second hearing on the 340B Drug Discount Program. The hearing followed on the heels of a July 18<sup>th<\/sup>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/2017\/07\/25\/witnesses-congressional-hearing-340b-urge-congress-give-hrsa-broader-regulatory-authority\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">hearing<\/a>\u00a0in which officials from the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), the Government Accountability Office (GAO), and the Department of Health and Human Services Office of\u00a0Inspector General\u00a0(HHS-OIG) testified about the challenges faced in overseeing the 340B Program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This hearing was called\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/energycommerce.house.gov\/hearings\/examining-covered-entities-utilize-340b-drug-pricing-program\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Examining How Covered Entities Utilize the 340B Drug Pricing Program<\/a>.\u00a0 Representatives of five different covered entities were asked to address three questions in their testimony:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>How much do 340B Covered Entities save when purchasing 340B drugs?<\/li><li>How are those savings tracked?<\/li><li>How are those savings used?<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>However, it was the follow-up questions from subcommittee and committee members that may indicate where Congress is headed in legislating changes to the 340B Program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Covered Entity Testimony<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The committee asked a cross-section of covered entity representatives to testify: one from a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/IF\/IF02\/20171011\/106498\/HHRG-115-IF02-Wstate-VeerS-20171011.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Federally Qualified Health Center (FQHC)<\/a>\u00a0in South Carolina, one from a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/IF\/IF02\/20171011\/106498\/HHRG-115-IF02-Wstate-GiffordM-20171011.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ryan White HIV\/AIDS Program<\/a>\u00a0grantee based in the Midwest, one from a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/IF\/IF02\/20171011\/106498\/HHRG-115-IF02-Wstate-PaulusR-20171011.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Disproportionate Share Hospital (DSH) system that serves rural areas of North Carolina<\/a>, and two from large regional DSHs that largely serve urban populations in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/IF\/IF02\/20171011\/106498\/HHRG-115-IF02-Wstate-ReulandC-20171011.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Maryland<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/docs.house.gov\/meetings\/IF\/IF02\/20171011\/106498\/HHRG-115-IF02-Wstate-BannaS-20171011.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Georgia<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All of the witnesses acknowledged that their entities save on drug costs through participation in the 340B Program. The three DSH representatives testified that because of 340B savings, they can provide considerable uncompensated care to patients.\u00a0 They also testified about additional services they are able to provide, such as treatment centers for abuse victims, wrap-around services for those with chronic conditions, and preventative health screenings. The FQHC and the Ryan White Program representatives testified that unlike the DSHs, their use of 340B income is restricted to funding pharmacy services for their patients.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Six Key Follow-Up Questions<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Participating legislators uniformly voiced support for the 340B Program and noted that covered entities appeared to be appropriately using their savings to expand access to care.&nbsp; However, follow-up questions probed areas of concern. While dozens of questions were posed, six appear to be key:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li><em>Are 340B \u201csavings\u201d calculated in a consistent manner?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>It appears there are inconsistencies in how covered entities calculate 340B savings. Of the testifying witnesses, three stated that their facilities determine 340B savings by calculating the difference&nbsp;between the actual 340B purchase price and the Group Purchasing Organization (GPO) purchase price. One covered entity defined savings as the net margin after the 340B drugs were dispensed\/reimbursed. And another covered entity described its savings as being based on its contract pharmacies\u2019 costs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"2\"><li><em>Are 340B savings earmarked for particular programs, and what would be the effect on those programs if the amount of savings was reduced?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>The FQHC and Ryan White representatives testified that based on HRSA regulations, they are limited in how they can use income derived from 340B; 340B revenues are used to fund pharmacy costs for their patients and are appropriately reported in their budgets and financial reporting to HRSA.&nbsp; Loss of 340B revenue would reduce those pharmacy services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The DSH representatives acknowledged that, in practice, 340B revenue is a line item in budgeting and not specifically earmarked.\u00a0 However, they noted that the revenue is what helps fund charity care and a variety of \u201cadditional\u201d services earlier described; reduction in 340B revenue would necessitate reductions in the level of charity care provided and\u00a0possibly\u00a0eliminate\u00a0additional programs such as wrap-around services for those with chronic conditions and preventative health screenings.\u00a0 That testimony led to a rebuke from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/energycommerce.house.gov\/meet-chairman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">committee Chair Greg Walden<\/a><em>,\u00a0<\/em>who said he was surprised that the facilities would not first consider rolling back overhead costs, reducing executive bonuses, or curtailing building expansions, but would immediately roll back patient care if 340B revenue was decreased.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"3\"><li><em>How do DSHs measure \u201ccharity\u201d or \u201cuncompensated\u201d care?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>The three DSH representatives all stated that the amount of charity or uncompensated care they provide far outpaces 340B Program revenue. But committee Chair Walden questioned how that \u201ccharity\u201d or \u201cuncompensated\u201d care is measured. Does the amount reported by each facility actually represent the cost of the care provided to uninsured individuals who are not billed for the care? Or does the stated amount include care provided to insured individuals, including government beneficiaries, where reimbursement rates fall below the billed amount for the services provided. He received no detailed responses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"4\"><li><em>Describe CEO salaries, and facility assets\/net income?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Representative\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/walberg.house.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tim Walberg<\/a>\u00a0asked the witnesses to confirm information about their CEO\u2019s reported salary (ranging from a low of $190,000 to a high of $2.8 million), and their entity\u2019s reported net assets and net income.\u00a0 For the three DSHs, net assets ranged from $1 billion to $1.4 billion and net income ranged from $81 million to $157 million.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"5\"><li><em>Do uninsured or self-pay patients get 340B drugs at the 340B discount prices? And to what extent do covered entities refer uninsured patients to patient assistance programs?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Representative\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/costello.house.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ryan Costello<\/a>\u00a0asked the witnesses whether uninsured patients treating at their facilities can access 340B drugs at or below the 340B discount prices.\u00a0 The FQHC and Ryan White representatives indicated that under applicable HRSA rules, they must make 340B drugs available to their self-pay patients.\u00a0 The three DSH representatives testified that their facilities each operate Medication or Pharmacy Assistance Programs to facilitate access to drugs for qualified patients.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Representative Costello followed up by asking the witnesses if they also connected patients to charitable patient assistance programs (PAPs) offered by manufacturers of specific drugs, or offered by third party charities that help patients afford the cost of care, including drug costs.&nbsp; All of the witnesses indicated that facility staff do help patients access PAPs which offer medication assistance, but could not provide specific information on the numbers of patients who receive PAP assistance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"6\"><li><em>Have DSHs leveraged 340B revenue through acquisition of suburban outpatient oncology clinics?<\/em><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Multiple questions were raised regarding urban DSH purchases of suburban outpatient oncology clinics, which allowed the hospitals to dispense expensive oncology drugs obtained at 340B discounts to the largely insured patients of these clinics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In response to questions raised by<a href=\"https:\/\/buddycarter.house.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u00a0Representative Carter<\/a>, one of the DSH representatives stated that the purchase of oncology clinics was part of a strategy to maximize integrated care for its patients.\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/susanwbrooks.house.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Representative Brooks\u00a0<\/a>questioned whether because of the purchases, patients were now charged facility fees for treatment received at the clinics.\u00a0 And\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/chriscollins.house.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Representative Collins<\/a>\u00a0noted that a hospital qualifies for DSH status based on its inpatient patient mix, meaning that the purchase of suburban outpatient clinics has no impact on a hospital\u2019s DSH status.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What Wasn\u2019t Asked<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Interestingly, there was only one fleeting reference to the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/2017\/07\/17\/six-questions-answers-cms-recommended-changes-340b-medicare-reimbursement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">CMS proposal<\/a>\u00a0to reduce Medicare Part B reimbursement for 340B drugs, scheduled to go into effect on January 1, 2018. However there were multiple references to concerns about 340B contract pharmacies, and indications that there would be a third congressional hearing on 340B to address those concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What it Mean?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It appears that there will be at least one more 340B hearing before we may see any proposals for legislation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If there is legislation, one thing is clear:&nbsp; there is bipartisan support for continuing the 340B Program.&nbsp; But the questions asked in this hearing, combined with the testimony provided at the July 18<sup>th<\/sup>&nbsp;hearing, appear to indicate some consensus for changes to the 340B Program, including imposing covered entity reporting requirements for 340B savings, a standardized methodology for calculating those savings, and covered entity reporting requirements on how those savings are used.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this month the House Energy and Commerce Committee\u2019s subcommittee on Government Oversight and Investigations held its second hearing on the 340B Drug Discount Program. The hearing followed on the heels of a July 18th\u00a0hearing\u00a0in which officials from the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), the Government Accountability Office (GAO), and the Department of Health &#8230; <a title=\"Six Key Follow-Up Questions Asked by Congress in 340B Hearing\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/2017\/10\/31\/six-key-follow-questions-asked-congress-340b-hearing\/\" aria-label=\"More on Six Key Follow-Up Questions Asked by Congress in 340B Hearing\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_generate-full-width-content":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4535"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4535"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4535\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4537,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4535\/revisions\/4537"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4535"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4535"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.healthlawpolicymatters.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4535"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}